I wanted to post this in the forums, but I thought it might just be a little too touchy of a subject for some of the newer members, so instead, I will share my thoughts here and if someone wants to post about it, I would really love to hear your thoughts as well. In addition, for the sake of discussion, I am going to use the word god to represent any deity and I would ask that you substitute the proper phrase for your particular religion or faith, if any, hoping that my words may give you pause.
My thoughts really boil down to one main question: Do you believe that HIV is a punishment from God? I started thinking about this after Ann made a comment that if we could prove HIV was from a man made mistake, say a failed vaccine, it would shut those up who proclaim that HIV is a punishment from God and that really perplexes me. Now, I have been poz for 24 years and this idea of HIV as a punishment from a God has remained constant, yet, I cannot see any logic or faith contained in the premise that God will punish you with HIV.
I am the first to admit that I am not a religious man, because I believe that the surest way to destroy any faith is to make a religion out of it, however that issue is for another time, but I had to tell you of my bias. Anyway, my argument is simple: I cannot believe that any entity capable of forming the universe in which we live, what we call reality, would posses such pettiness as to individually, smite what must amount to at least billions, if not trillions of races scattered across our universe.
Think about it. This entity can obviously do anything, like making matter out of nothing. We know that our universe started with a Bing Bang, so other than God, it would seem that nobody else existed. We are talking about someone who could stand on the surface of the sun or extinguish it with but a thought. We know that our universe operates under various inviolate laws of science and if you really think about the complexity of our reality, you would need to be extraordinary brilliant or even, a god, to structure it all and have it actually work. My point being that for me, if God does exist, they would certainly be omnipotent and as such, certainly have better things to do than individually infecting people with HIV.
Given this omnipotence, I cannot fathom God actually identifying and condemning any entity to certain death, for any reason. I cannot accept that such a being would have so little regard for what they created or that they would have the time or even be interested in such long-term torture. What would you do if you were omnipotent? Would you spend your time squishing ants under your foot, or might you be off creating new universes?
I imagine that God would rather observe what they had put into motion, rather than petty torture. I can even accept that God may influence how we conduct ourselves and how we treat others, but I do not believe that you develop such abilities through two stone tablets like the Ten Commandments. Rather, I believe we all have what I call a “moral compass”, you know the place, the one that really tells you the reasonableness of your actions, even if you choose to override the feeling. If God exists, would it not seem more realistic that they set such a “moral compass” within our genes and our intellect? As God, if you want to be assured that your creations adhere to your rules; it would seem that hard wiring it into us, would surely beat the system we have now within some religions. As God, if you took all the time and energy to create this vast universe, with its incomprehensible complexities and possible trillions upon trillions of worlds or races, I just cannot accept that a true god would do such a thing as infecting anyone with anything.
The message of God striking you down with HIV would indicate a god with the utmost contempt for their creations. As God, surely, you are not thinking, “I will create beings, only to destroy some, and insist they treat each other properly and follow my rules, but even if they do, occasionally I feel the need to infect someone with HIV”. Does it make sense for a god to preach about loving each other, only to directly undermine those efforts, by just killing people off with HIV (or any disease or calamity for that matter)?”
On the other hand, does the real answer lie somewhere between our reality and God? You cannot deny the reality in which we live and you have some concept as to its grandeur and does it not make more sense that HIV (whether manufactured or not) is just another disease out of thousands that have plagued humans from the beginning of our existence? Does it make sense to view HIV as a punishment for bad behavior? If so, how do you explain infants who are born with HIV? Alternatively, those infected through an infusion or from a needle-stick. I just cannot see any connection at all.
HIV is much too random in infecting people to be effective in thinning the heard, if you will, or to insure compliance with any god’s rules. If God wanted to punish humanity, they would use something like the Bubonic plague, which wiped out almost two-thirds of Europe. It also makes absolutely no sense, even from a god’s perspective. If you are the God that created humankind, you did so by providing all that we need to live and thrive by creating the planet Earth. This planet is capable of supporting billions of life forms, almost everything humanity could need is already here, and our increasing intelligence allows us to make new discoveries almost daily.
I would think that if a god created humanity, they would do so by laying the foundations, physically, intellectually and even morally so they could keep gods’ law, rather than laying some intricate trap for unrelated people to contract the same disease. I spoke earlier of a “moral compass” and everyone has one. The most difficult aspect of this compass is when it forms in an unhealthy environment. If you grow up in a country that promotes intolerance and hatred for others, it can become almost impossible to see the questionable aspects of some of your beliefs, because that is all that you have known and for many it is all that they can believe because they have never been introduced to any alternate belief systems. Finally, even if we could determine that a particular faith may lay the best foundation, we know that the world religions share vastly different views on many subjects, so who is to say which, if any, represents the best foundation for a moral compass?
All of this leads me to conclude that any god worthy of worship would be one that would love and cherish all that they had created. I refuse to accept that a supreme deity would be shooting “craps” with the universe or reigning down disease on humanity, simply because it makes no sense. Moreover, if something does not make any sense, then generally it is untrue. Please understand I am not condemning or even commenting on any religion or belief system, just sharing my views. As for me, I am an Agnostic and you will have to look it up.
If I were to worship a god it would be one who still marveled at their creations and continued to watch over them, even if indirectly. A god that loves equally and without reservation, someone who watches us use the moral compass we each possess
I appreciate your reading and I wonder: “What might your God believe?”





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